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An article explaining steps we've taken to help users try to "trigger" the Spotify algorithm in their favor.

I was on a panel discussion over the weekend that centered around Spotify playlisting, and one of the questions that naturally came up was: "What can artists do to improve their chances of triggering the Spotify algorithm?"

Now, I certainly don't have access to Spotify's algorithm and thus can't say anything with absolute 100% confidence. That said, I think this idea is something that makes sense.

The theory

Spotify's "algorithmic" playlists are primarily focused on helping expose users to songs that are similar to the style of music they already enjoy. If a user listens to techno all the time, Spotify's going to push more techno down their throat. Similarly, if they love country music, their list of recommendations will likely be filled up by other country songs.

And so it follows: if you make techno music, you need "teach" Spotify to suggest your song alongside other techno songs.

One way to do this is to make sure that your song is included in playlists that focus primarily on techno. If your song is added to a playlist that covers pop, acoustic, metal, and... techno, that's going to confuse Spotify's algorithm. They'll see users listening to your song alongside others from completely unrelated genres, which will make it harder for them to target users who might like your song.

Helping your find your niche

Right, so now you have my theory: get your song into playlists that "align" with your sound and Spotify will know who to "algorithmically" recommend your music to.

But Jason, you say, there are 1,000+ playlists on SubmitHub! Help me figure out who to send to!

Good news: I've been trying to do just that. Over the years we've been honing our "genre match" score, which helps align you with curators who tend to gravitate toward your genre. This week, I took that a step further.

You'll now find two new pieces of information accompanying most playlists:

  1. Their "top 3 genres", based on historical approvals that took place on SubmitHub
  2. A "nicheness" score, which I'll get into below

These two data points should help you avoid playlisters who seem to *not* align with your personal profile.

Wait, what's "nicheness" and how do you come up with that?

Yeah, this one was tough, and I'll readily admit that it's pseudo-science made up by yours truly.

The first thing I do is look at the "top 3" genres of each playlist (based on their sharing history). If those 3 genres cover ~85% of the songs in that playlist, that indicates it's quite focused. On the flip side, if those "top 3" only make up ~30% of the songs in that playlist, it's a strong signal that there's quite a bit of genre variation.

That data point alone isn't enough for me to confidently (and algorithmically) make an assertion about the playlist's nicheness or not, though. So I've brought in a second variable...

Spotify provides a whole bunch "audio analysis" for each song that gets uploaded to Spotify. This includes things such as bpm, energy, danceability, loudness, "speechiness", duration, and more. Using a whole bunch of clever code I can take a "snapshot" of all the songs in a specific playlist and try to determine how similar or divergent they all are. Again, this is a very inexact science, but I've found that when coupled with the above "top 3 genre" analysis, you actually end up with a pretty strong signal regarding whether a playlist is "niche" or "broad" in its genre focus.

What to do with this info

I'll make it short and sweet: if you're sending out a song in a very specific genre, try to almost exclusively target playlisters who focus on that genre. Look for the following:

  1. A high genre match score
  2. "Top 3 genres" that include your genre
  3. "Genre variation" (nicheness) notes that say either "Low (consistent/niche)"
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Felix (ListenToGlobal)
Good stuff!
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4 years ago
Jerry Spoon
nice!
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4 years ago
GT_Ofice
DOPE!! I love discover weekly :)
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4 years ago
progressismade
In short, write the best music possible, don't try and push boundaries/be a market leader in your own sound
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4 years ago
Lazy Vibes
that's pretty amazing! thanks a lot
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4 years ago
D'Riddim
Great read, thanks :)
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4 years ago
Annonymous
Pretty interesting theory... Must look into it closely. I read about a similar theory in Spotify Decoded
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4 years ago
CALLEN
love this
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4 years ago
Jo-Fi
more stats is always good, great feature!!
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4 years ago
Fear 2 Stop
Definitely good to know! Sadly a lot of my band's music fits outside the listed genres, especially considering we do a lot of game soundtrack type music ... not chiptunes, per se, but more like something for a roleplaying game...and none of the categories fit (thought it would be symphonic but apparently not)
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4 years ago
brianderba
Love this!
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4 years ago
matticharlton
Interesting take. I would say this is very good advice for getting more acceptances, but if you’re submitting using standard credits be sure to check how many standard credit acceptances the curator has - there are many on here who have 0, or maybe a few out of thousands, and those aren’t worth your time. Eliminate them and report them to SubmitHub admin - they shouldn’t be allowed to even accept standard credits.
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4 years ago
CMPT
appreciate this tip.
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4 years ago
matticharlton
No problem
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3 years ago
Los Angeles Radio
if you want some more in depth info on this check out playlistsplus.com/spotifydecoded
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4 years ago
robertobocchetti
Thanks for the spamming
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3 years ago
Annonymous
not spam.. helpful info. taught me loads about these algorithms
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3 years ago
The Musical Doc
thank you for the insight ! :)
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4 years ago
Margiela Myers
cheers brother!
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4 years ago
Mantetu
great work. thanks Jason.
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3 years ago
SundayBlues
Thanks for the info, unfortunately there aren't that many playlists I've found here that are exclusively focusing on the blues genre.
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3 years ago
matticharlton
Thats probably because it’s not as popular a genre with younger generations. And the older generations that DO listen to blues tend to stick to what artists they already know. There are a few rare exceptions, like the Black Keys, but they have to make it mainstream first. Good luck.
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3 years ago
matticharlton
At first it seemed like SubmitHub was a potentially golden opportunity for the unknown indie artist, especially say those of us underfunded with fewer opportunities, like myself being transgender and autistic. More and more, with these moves away from supporting small artists’ efforts to seek and find their niche audience - the move away from small credit submissions, and especially the pausing of complimentary influencer submissions on behalf of the artist as a kind way of thanking them for funding this whole site - now it would appear that the only people who can get anywhere on this site are the wealthy and those backed by record labels and publicists. I have the #1 new wave song of ALL TIME and for ALL COUNTRIES on SubmitHub’s popular charts (it’s also the #3 synth pop song for all time and all countries as well)… this song also ranks on Canada’s charts for ALL GENRES on here at #32 FOR ALL TIME… I also have a different song that is the #9 synthwave song FOR ALL TIME, ALL COUNTRIES on here. The first song, “Dark Addiction “, has more than 100 acceptances. The second song, “Neon Delorean”, had well over 50. Despite pouring thousands of dollars into campaigns across two years, neither of these songs have surpassed 50,000 streams and 15,000 streams, respectively. So I have not nearly earned back even a fraction of what I have invested over the long term, even despite careful selection of curators to pitch to, and multiple posts about these songs on blogs. It’s just not possible to make money via streaming. More than 500 acceptances overall on this website has taught me that expensive lesson.
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3 years ago
Miro Kuncak
Sorry to hear that... Unfortunately, music isn't about investment and returns, it's subjective and not really an exact science... You learn to deal with it.... Your music is great! Keep on the good work...
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3 years ago
robertobocchetti
Sorry, Miro, I don't agree with you. Music today is a BUSINESS and it's all about money, not creativity.
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3 years ago
Neilfostermusic
Wow.. Robert that's sad to hear. I hope you get to connect with your creativity. good luck 😉
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2 years ago
UA
there's no/little money in this, I don't even think its that healthy to think there is, some might "make" it but very few and at what cost? Look at like a hobby, something you care about but it shouldn't be close to your only source of income - I have no where near your streams so wetl done for what you have achieved.
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3 years ago
Louisa.T
Very Useful!!!
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3 years ago
Breathe LDN
Thanks for this Jason. This website is super dope. Not just for getting playlists but for getting actual opinions on our songs. I like criticism and its hard to find productive criticism for artists to improve. Maybe you can create a section for that specifically. Getting people who work in radio station/top Spotify playlisters etc to give productive feedback.
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3 years ago
Natalie Gish
This is very helpful! Thank you for putting together and sharing.
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3 years ago
julianauncovered
Very helpful info!
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3 years ago
wave6_official
Thanks for this, quite insightful. I want to note that SubmitHub should relax its requirement that a curator "accept this genre" as there are many redundant/ non-MECE genres such as "rap" and "hip-hop" and, as such, several times it has required me to select the other genre since a particular playlister "didn't accept this genre" when in reality they did, your genre categories are just not mutually exclusive (i.e., overlap).
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3 years ago
ringbo
Amazing! Thanks a lot 🤝
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3 years ago
Miss Sxvage
Thanks so much for this
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3 years ago
callen@callensounds.com
Love this. I'm reading this and realizing I've partially just used submithub to fix my "Fans also like" section on my Spotify artist page. I'm an alt/pop artist and for the past few years it has said I sound like a bunch of country artists like Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Miranda Lambert, and Maren Morris... lol. I don't sound country at all, and that's more than just like... my opinion dude... :) It finally says "Fans also like" The American Indie, Quinn Lewis, and Chris James. Because it has been such an unfixable annoying mystery, I can't tell you how incredible it feels for that to finally start adjusting to the right data or shall I say just more relevant data (cuz that's also just like my opinion dude). I think it has something to do with; A.) releasing a whole album B.) getting on a lot of relevant high genre match playlists via submit hub in a short span of time --- I'm not sure if the timing is terribly important but I just thought I would share in case anyone is having this problem as well. The timing definitely helped trigger algorithmic playlists for my new songs. C.) I'm not 1,000% sure on this, but I really think getting relevant genre blogs to do write-ups about your music is a giant factor in Spotify collecting the right data for your "Fans also like" section (blogs that have done similar artists and stay relatively consistent with genres)
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3 years ago
MOODS4DAYS
This is great!
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3 years ago
Lukas Kux
thank you!
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3 years ago
Daniel Lake
Learned some new things from the article, thanks 😊
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3 years ago
ombræ
fantastic article
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3 years ago
HarrisonDolan
Thanks 😊
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3 years ago
Mikolas
So true
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2 years ago
marc antony
Great info.
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2 years ago
Anonymous
Jason, an idea I had, you have probably considered: if you could search through playlists by "sounds like (insert artist here)". If I was a Pop artist, and I sounded like Ed Sheeran, but I submitted to the Pop-curated playlists, a lot of them might reject my music because their idea of pop is more like electronic dance music, R & B or Rap. If I could search through playlists that play Ed Sheeran, they may or may not be in the Pop genre, but it would be a stronger chance of getting a placement, if I submit to a playlist that already has an artist like me. Just an idea.
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2 years ago
Jason Grishkoff
Hey, this one's 100% on my todo list. Was hoping to have it done by the end of March, but I need to prioritize the Marketplace right now.
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2 years ago
Jeramy Hoffman
....i'm doomed
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2 years ago
Nate Chapman
great read
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2 years ago
Tunnnas
This is so good!
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2 years ago
Craig Avery
Good information, helped me get over 1000+
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2 years ago
Jason Grishkoff
Would love to hear more about how that worked out? Maybe our Marketing team can even give you a little feature. Feel free to shoot an email to tilly@submithub.com 😊
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2 years ago
Adrian Ground
Very nice and useful. Thanks for all the great information.
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2 years ago
Ariel Goitia
Excelente información
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2 years ago
Anonymous
This is incredible.
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a year ago
zacharycampos
Thank you!
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a year ago
Joey Jax
this is great, really love how you're leveraging the data
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7 months ago
ash k
1. Write Library Music. 2. Don't be an artist, be mediocre. 3. And remember: you're the customer; give all you money to equipment manufactures and uneducated gatekeepers.
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